So, now it's true that Gatsby "killed a man". Apparently found Wilson the yellow car in Gatsby's garage. But now he is even more in trouble, first because of Myrtle (the yellow car) and now because of Wilson. My favourite quote is "I told her she might fool me but she could'nt fool God" (pg.159) because, before Wilson said this to Michaelis he said he does not belong to a church, and it does not seem that he believes in god. And that he characterize the eyes with god. And, why is Nick going to town?? What is he doing there, when "[he] didn't want to go to the city"?
Chapter 8 was mostly about the consequences of Murtle's death. Nick and Gatsby had a breakfast together, and Nick didn't want to leave Gatsby alone... seemed like he felt something is going to happen with him. Gatsby is still hoping that Daisy is going to call him, but yet, no phone call from her. Gatsby was carried away in memories about him and Daisy. "I can't describe to you how surprised i was to find out I loved her, old sport." (p. 150) He thought he wasn't good enough for Daisy and still cannot believe that Daisy loves/ loved Tom. Jordan doesn't want to understand that Nick wants to be left alone. Nick doesn't care. He doesn't want to think about her right now. What seemed really strange to me was Michaelis questioning.. It looked like he wanted to hurt Wilson by questions like "Ever had children? Come on George, sit still-- I asked you a question.." (p. 157) "God knows what you' ve been doing, everything you've been doing. You may fool me, but you can't fool God!" Standig behind him, Michaelis saw with a shock that he was looking at the eyes of Doctor T. J. Eckleburg..." (p. 159) What confirms our discussion in class about T.J. Eckleburg eyes and the valley of ashes.
i gave chapter 8 a new name"Day Of Lost Lovers." i knew that Gatsby was not going to listen to Nick and leave Long Island and forget about Daisy. in this chapter, nick really confessed some true feelings. also, i seen a new motif, which is water.while Wilson was telling of Myrtle death, the eyes of T.J were mentioned. i really do not know what the eyes symbolized. i believe there i no profound meaning.the reader can just think think whatever he thinks. why did Wilson kill Gatsby? what problem did that solve?now Gatsby and his dream is gone. i guess we will never see the green light anymore. i believe that Gatsby is holding on to the past. i wondered why was Gatsby swimming in the fall. Gatsby still wants things to be the same as they were in the summertime with Daisy.
In chapter 8 Nick tries to tell Gatsby to leave Daisy only. But somehow I know that that would not happen. Because if you truely have felling for someone, like Gatsby has for Daisy then you can't just leave them be. Hw say's "that Daisy was the first person that he has feeling for..." And this shows ow much passion he has in his heart for her. But I think what Daisy did was wrong she could at least came outside ro tell Gatsby she could not see him at that point. But that is how some people will fo you.
Whoa, gatsby didnt even date nor kill wilsons wife(myrtle). wilson who who doesn't even believe in god, had a devine revelation. he started to see the eyes of doctor TJ Elckleburg overwhelmed he started to see god and pursued to find who was dating myrtle on the side and killed gatsby
This chapter was full of different things going on. first Nick stops by Gatsby's house in the morning to check on him and have breakfast with him and Gatsby tells him that he waited at Daisys and Toms house til four in the morning and Tom didn't hurt Daisy and that Daisy never came outside. Nick tells him that he should move and forget about Daisy because Nick knows that Daisy is never going to leave Tom. Then after all that the story starts talking about Myrtle's death and Wilson tracks the yellow car back to Gatsby...but Wilson thinks that Myrtle's lover killed her, but he doesn't no that Tom is his lover because Tom was in a different car.(its kind of confusing) But in the end Wilson goes to Gatsby house and Gatsby who has never took a swim in that pool decides to swim that day and Wilson caught him in the pool looking up in the sky and shoot and killed him then killed himself. WOW!!!!!!!!!!
I uderstood this chapter until I saw everyone else's responses. I thought I had it al figured out, but I dont't. I'm really confused about what happened and how this chapter was mostly about the consequences of Myrtle's death. I did understand that Gatsby and Nick sat outside(I think) and went down memory lane about how Gatsby and Daisy supposedly met. I guess he is telling the truth about going away in the military and Daisy really wanting him to come back. I guess. we need to talk about this in class.
Gatsby has made Daisy a symbol of everything he values, and made the green light on her dock a symbol of his destiny with her. Thinking about Gatsby’s death, Nick suggests that all symbols are created by the mind— they do not possess any inherent meaning; rather, people invest them with meaning. Nick writes that Gatsby must have realized “what a grotesque thing a rose is.” The rose has been a conventional symbol of beauty throughout centuries of poetry. Nick suggests that roses aren’t inherently beautiful, and that people only view them that way because they choose to do so. Daisy is “grotesque” in the same way: Gatsby has invested her with beauty and meaning by making her the object of his dream. Had Gatsby not imbued her with such value, Daisy would be simply an idle, bored, rich young woman with no particular moral strength or loyalty
In this chapter, Gatsby begans to talk to Nick and he tell him that he waited for Daisy and yet she never came out. He also never got a call from her. This contradicts absolutely all that Daisy said she felt for Gatsby. I think I might have said it before, but Daisy has no substance. She is a careless person and thinks that because she is beautiful and hypnotizing she can get everything she wants. And that is not the reality. Also, at the end of the chapter, Wilson kills Gatsby and I find it meaningful, because all of this ultimately lead to Gatsby's death. sadly but surely, Gatsby's death was his own fault. The past should stay in the past. And I think that it one of the most important messages that Fitzgerald is trying to convey.
“Go away now old sport?” This is how Nick tries to get Gatsby to get out of the wreck situation. I knew Gatsby was not going to leave because it seems impossible to leave the one he loves a lot. Then Wilson has a thought that the person driving the car must have been her lover. I got a little confused about him seeing T.J. Eckleburg. Is it because he sees God and doesn’t believe in him?
Things are really getting intense! Nick tries to convince Gatsby to leave town to get away from all the drama that was going but Gatsby insisted on staying to win Daisy's love back. In this chapter Jay Gatsby is killed by Mr. Wilson.. I think Tom is the one who told Wilson that Gatsby killed Myrtle even though he really didnt know. I think he was just trying to get rid of Gatsby because he was sorta jealous of him. After Mr. Wilson killed Gatsby, he shot himself. When Nick goes to see Gatsby hes sees his body floating in his pool. This chapter was very sad. Everyone in this book is getting hurt mainly because of their love lives and the things they will do for love.
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So, now it's true that Gatsby "killed a man". Apparently found Wilson the yellow car in Gatsby's garage. But now he is even more in trouble, first because of Myrtle (the yellow car) and now because of Wilson. My favourite quote is "I told her she might fool me but she could'nt fool God" (pg.159) because, before Wilson said this to Michaelis he said he does not belong to a church, and it does not seem that he believes in god. And that he characterize the eyes with god.
And, why is Nick going to town?? What is he doing there, when "[he] didn't want to go to the city"?
Chapter 8 was mostly about the consequences of Murtle's death. Nick and Gatsby had a breakfast together, and Nick didn't want to leave Gatsby alone... seemed like he felt something is going to happen with him. Gatsby is still hoping that Daisy is going to call him, but yet, no phone call from her.
Gatsby was carried away in memories about him and Daisy. "I can't describe to you how surprised i was to find out I loved her, old sport." (p. 150) He thought he wasn't good enough for Daisy and still cannot believe that Daisy loves/ loved Tom.
Jordan doesn't want to understand that Nick wants to be left alone. Nick doesn't care. He doesn't want to think about her right now.
What seemed really strange to me was Michaelis questioning.. It looked like he wanted to hurt Wilson by questions like "Ever had children? Come on George, sit still-- I asked you a question.." (p. 157)
"God knows what you' ve been doing, everything you've been doing. You may fool me, but you can't fool God!" Standig behind him, Michaelis saw with a shock that he was looking at the eyes of Doctor T. J. Eckleburg..." (p. 159) What confirms our discussion in class about T.J. Eckleburg eyes and the valley of ashes.
i gave chapter 8 a new name"Day Of Lost Lovers." i knew that Gatsby was not going to listen to Nick and leave Long Island and forget about Daisy. in this chapter, nick really confessed some true feelings. also, i seen a new motif, which is water.while Wilson was telling of Myrtle death, the eyes of T.J were mentioned. i really do not know what the eyes symbolized. i believe there i no profound meaning.the reader can just think think whatever he thinks. why did Wilson kill Gatsby? what problem did that solve?now Gatsby and his dream is gone. i guess we will never see the green light anymore. i believe that Gatsby is holding on to the past. i wondered why was Gatsby swimming in the fall. Gatsby still wants things to be the same as they were in the summertime with Daisy.
In chapter 8 Nick tries to tell Gatsby to leave Daisy only. But somehow I know that that would not happen. Because if you truely have felling for someone, like Gatsby has for Daisy then you can't just leave them be. Hw say's "that Daisy was the first person that he has feeling for..." And this shows ow much passion he has in his heart for her. But I think what Daisy did was wrong she could at least came outside ro tell Gatsby she could not see him at that point. But that is how some people will fo you.
Whoa, gatsby didnt even date nor kill wilsons wife(myrtle). wilson who who doesn't even believe in god, had a devine revelation. he started to see the eyes of doctor TJ Elckleburg overwhelmed he started to see god and pursued to find who was dating myrtle on the side and killed gatsby
This chapter was full of different things going on. first Nick stops by Gatsby's house in the morning to check on him and have breakfast with him and Gatsby tells him that he waited at Daisys and Toms house til four in the morning and Tom didn't hurt Daisy and that Daisy never came outside. Nick tells him that he should move and forget about Daisy because Nick knows that Daisy is never going to leave Tom. Then after all that the story starts talking about Myrtle's death and Wilson tracks the yellow car back to Gatsby...but Wilson thinks that Myrtle's lover killed her, but he doesn't no that Tom is his lover because Tom was in a different car.(its kind of confusing) But in the end Wilson goes to Gatsby house and Gatsby who has never took a swim in that pool decides to swim that day and Wilson caught him in the pool looking up in the sky and shoot and killed him then killed himself. WOW!!!!!!!!!!
I uderstood this chapter until I saw everyone else's responses. I thought I had it al figured out, but I dont't. I'm really confused about what happened and how this chapter was mostly about the consequences of Myrtle's death. I did understand that Gatsby and Nick sat outside(I think) and went down memory lane about how Gatsby and Daisy supposedly met. I guess he is telling the truth about going away in the military and Daisy really wanting him to come back. I guess. we need to talk about this in class.
Gatsby has made Daisy a symbol of everything he values, and made the green light on her dock a symbol of his destiny with her. Thinking about Gatsby’s death, Nick suggests that all symbols are created by the mind— they do not possess any inherent meaning; rather, people invest them with meaning. Nick writes that Gatsby must have realized “what a grotesque thing a rose is.” The rose has been a conventional symbol of beauty throughout centuries of poetry. Nick suggests that roses aren’t inherently beautiful, and that people only view them that way because they choose to do so. Daisy is “grotesque” in the same way: Gatsby has invested her with beauty and meaning by making her the object of his dream. Had Gatsby not imbued her with such value, Daisy would be simply an idle, bored, rich young woman with no particular moral strength or loyalty
In this chapter, Gatsby begans to talk to Nick and he tell him that he waited for Daisy and yet she never came out. He also never got a call from her. This contradicts absolutely all that Daisy said she felt for Gatsby. I think I might have said it before, but Daisy has no substance. She is a careless person and thinks that because she is beautiful and hypnotizing she can get everything she wants. And that is not the reality. Also, at the end of the chapter, Wilson kills Gatsby and I find it meaningful, because all of this ultimately lead to Gatsby's death. sadly but surely, Gatsby's death was his own fault. The past should stay in the past. And I think that it one of the most important messages that Fitzgerald is trying to convey.
“Go away now old sport?” This is how Nick tries to get Gatsby to get out of the wreck situation. I knew Gatsby was not going to leave because it seems impossible to leave the one he loves a lot.
Then Wilson has a thought that the person driving the car must have been her lover. I got a little confused about him seeing T.J. Eckleburg. Is it because he sees God and doesn’t believe in him?
Things are really getting intense!
Nick tries to convince Gatsby to leave town to get away from all the drama that was going but Gatsby insisted on staying to win Daisy's love back. In this chapter Jay Gatsby is killed by Mr. Wilson.. I think Tom is the one who told Wilson that Gatsby killed Myrtle even though he really didnt know. I think he was just trying to get rid of Gatsby because he was sorta jealous of him. After Mr. Wilson killed Gatsby, he shot himself. When Nick goes to see Gatsby hes sees his body floating in his pool. This chapter was very sad. Everyone in this book is getting hurt mainly because of their love lives and the things they will do for love.
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